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Native life as perceived from non-native lineage

Location: Buchanan, TN
Members: 13
Latest Activity: Jan 5, 2017

make it up as i go along

I consider myself a native of north america - cuz I AM a native of north america - but i'm not so sure about my ancestors, i'm pretty sure we were just starving peasants from scotland.

One thing I've noticed is all the cool ceremony native indians in north america use -

My parents were not into ceremony, so i felt bereft - but only sort of.  When this thought first occurred to me I realized that there's no time like the present for me to START ceremony and tradition in my life & because I have no preconceived notions handed down I could make up any ol' thing I want.  YES !!! 

We didn't do anything extreme for these end-of-year holidays tradition-wise, but every morning and every evening I try to celebrate and make into a ceremony the day - the beginning and the end, recognizing the 4 main elements, the 4 directions, and also sky father and earth mother and all my grandmas and grandpas (which is pretty much everything else) ~ Universe seemed to indicate to me that relics and recitation is not necessary, some people may need that, but for me - I'm good to make up whatever I want. 

I feel like i am often flippant and not serious about these subjects that are very serious and deep, but I surely do not want to offend anybody - so PLEASE do not take offense if I type immature things.

Also - just fyi, my Mayan astrological signature is Yellow Self-existing Sun ... I also learned over these past years that most of my spiritual life will be flying solo - i was not the least surprised to learn i was "self-existing" - so the fact that this group FWII is here and I am allowed to be part of it, is like the biggest gift to me -

thanks to all y'all

and merriest happiest prosperous fun excellent 2013 to everyone with peace and love on and off Earth ♥♥♥♥

below:  the back yard and forest seen from the kitchen door here where we stay - winter snow

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Greetings and thank you for opening this discussion.  Like you, I look white yet my quest for balance and wisdon in this life has brought me mach information and given me many gifts.  Right now I am…Continue

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Comment by amy rigg on February 4, 2013 at 4:00am

Skin color doesn't always prove one's ancestry, genetics are quirky, the white lady and black guy who had twins ... one was dark skin, one was light skin (of the twins) - i think the native wisdom in spiritual matters is very spot on, which is what draws me i think to that culture, also the fact i was born on this part of land (north america, USA) helps my influence.  My 13 y.o. son is supposedly WAY native via his paternal side, but there is no way to confirm this - I don't believe in gov't aid or 'having papers' - i've received gov't aid before, but if i can't get it, I don't care.  I'm surely not waiting on any gov't rep to verify and validate me, my past, or my survival hee hee just like i don't let a doctor control my health.  Me, my past, my survival, and my health are all on me.

thanks for commenting Rebekah Copas

Comment by Rebekah Copas on February 3, 2013 at 7:34pm

My ancestry is predominantly European by majority, but predominantly indigenous of Australia by the patterns of my Spiritual Awakening, and whether or not we have indigenous ancestral inheritance of biology, is one of those questions folk were afraid to ask.  My parents say "no way", but my Grandmother said "only by marriage", and my Great Aunties used to say "we have to stay out of the sun so we don't go brown".  Traditional indigenous Australians, (the "full blood" mob who know me), don't think it makes as much difference as city blackfellas reckon, but out bush traditional men also simply look at my bone structure and the way I walk, and wonder why nobody in the city already acknowledged that there is ancestral inheritance.  Here in Australia folk have been too bent on competing for slim pickings of government resources for those who carry formal on paper indigenous identification, but in a way, I find myself glad that I didn't have to carry that, but instead, have had to prove myself among indigenous people, who are much darker than my pale skin, by how I conduct myself and adhere to socio-cultural concepts that are inherently indigenous.  First I had to own my white ancestors from far away, and find a way for this foreigner's ancestry I need voice who I am within, through the shell of, to comply with local acculturative experience, and then found I have many black folk closer to home who count me as family, with or without formal on paper acknowledgement.

Comment by amy rigg on February 3, 2013 at 6:02pm

i agree whole heartedly Rebekah Copas, Earth, Universe, Truth are MUCH MUCH stronger than any ol' puny feeble human culture ... Truth oozes from EarthMother and Air into us - I'm quite empathic and I surely can feel other humans, their joy or pain, also though I can feel Earth, I look & listen for what Universe is trying to impart to me so even though my genetics are eurocentric, if you will, my proximity to Earth here on Turtle Island in this incarnation is very powerful to my psyche and my life.  even as a little kid, watching old cowboy & indian movies with my dad i always wanted the indians to win.

Comment by Rebekah Copas on February 3, 2013 at 5:55pm

I am thinking "I can't believe I didn't already put a comment here", because the whole topic of a Euro-centric ancestral point of view in these times, about the cultures native to places Europeans invaded and settled and colonised, is one I find very interesting.  It reveals much about the subversive manner by which the land itself will ever dominate us all with her stories, and thus indigenous acculturative patterns are permanently predestined to rejuvenate, both aligned with ancestry, and aligned with birth place.

Comment by Carol Petersen on September 4, 2012 at 2:00pm

Blessings on Another Perspective

Yes dear sister Amy your wisdom is great.  A great law few notice if not even less is the Law of Opposites.




Comment by amy rigg on August 23, 2012 at 3:40am

I love you

Comment by amy rigg on August 21, 2012 at 5:49am

Another beautiful morning here in buchanan, TN.  Fifty-two teensy weensy degrees on AUGUST TWENTY FIRST, that is so sweet.  It's my brother's 54th birthday.  Our drunk friend came over last night, whew, he smelled pungently like an old honky tonk bar on sunday morning after a usual friday & saturday night drunk fest.  I sure am glad I am me and that I do no drink alcohol on a daily basis - do you know real live humongous alcoholics ?? 

i love you. 

Comment by amy rigg on August 20, 2012 at 10:13am

and for Teresa and brother Chief Phil - thanks for joining this here council/discussion ♥

Comment by amy rigg on August 20, 2012 at 5:01am

ahh lovely MOONday - august 20th - it's my brother's 54th birthday eve ♥

I have a 40+ hr work week job doing medical transcription & especially in this time of life I am very grateful for my job, I actually LOVE to do it, I am a very word-y person, I love to read ...


I sure do wish the crazy people in power would have elected to have like a 3-day work week and then 4 days off ...

if I ran the world, that is one thing I would implement straight away - the 3-day work week ...

what would you do if YOU ran the world ??? I love you, with sweet sweet peace & love.

Comment by amy rigg on August 17, 2012 at 5:10am

are there any Good Morning ceremony you do daily ?? ♥


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