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A place where the men can gather and have relaxing conversations, learning, teaching and laughter. We need this space, so welcome. May you walk in beauty White-Bear Apache Elder

Location: everywhere upon Mother Earth
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It's quite in the men's lodge? 5 Replies

I am new over here. I met Brother Phil some weeks ago in Lothlorien and found myself suddenly being the Fire Keeper in his Pipe Sharing Ceremony; my Soul being very happy and me being very humble…Continue

Started by Gerard Franciscus Remmerswaal. Last reply by Paul Tobin-Coyote Song Sep 18, 2016.

How to live in harmony with all beings and the earth itself 19 Replies

I would love to hear what other men are feeling in these times of great change. What are you doing to abide in the spiritual reality that exists above and beyond, yet coincident with this place. …Continue

Started by John Bent. Last reply by Tim Barrett Sep 2, 2014.

Getting Involved 3 Replies

Okay, this one got to me. I signed the petition. Can we make a difference? Not if We just sit and do nothing. Come on guys, go for it! This one needs Us.…Continue

Started by John Francis. Last reply by Tim Barrett Sep 2, 2014.

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Comment by Bernhard Holtrop on August 27, 2010 at 2:46am
Hallo Armen, Thanks for your sharing.
I myself am also in a regular struggle with the world of greed and profit we live in.
It sometimes depresses me. But living through that I realise that resistance, struggle and fight should not be my way, nor fleeing into isolation (although sometimes very appealing :-). I feel it as a challenge to be compasionate to these reflexes. (which , sometimes also are in myself), and to live my thing but staying in compasionate contact with the greedy world.
Agree, tell your story, live a different example. With perseverance. But let's be compasionate to this other side in all of us. Walk in beauty, as White Bear says.
Comment by Lonny Peddycord on August 26, 2010 at 3:22pm
I know that this is a hard subject but I have been told by many elders during my research to bring attention to the PTSD that has been handed down generationally because of the boarding schools and genocide practices that Native Americans still carry to this day because of it. I was honored to be able to take part in a talking circle about the issue of boarding school traumas last week, and a subject that many men it is said dont want to face and talk about, that being the sexual abuse faced by men. Women can talk about it, and by doing so can start to heal from it, but with men its a different story, they feel ashamed, they feel less of a man and wont talk about what has been said to be a big problem in many communities. It is said that the abused many times become the abusers, and this abuse is still happening today. what does anyone here in this mens group think would be a good way to break the cycle of silence and thereby break the cycle of abuse of our boys because of it?
Comment by Armen Moradians on August 13, 2010 at 1:59pm
Well, here it goes.
My name is Armen, and I am going to be 32 this year. I have been an immigrant twice in my life and if you were to follow my tracks geographically since birth, I came from the middle east, to Germany, and then the us where I dwell today.

I have had so much stripped from me in my life, but most of all my voice. I represent a minority that isn't bound by skin color, politics, ancestry, or religious belief.

The minority I represent, is that of the young people of the world who could not assimilate into the corporate, mainstream system of greed and profit. I lived my life resisting, and escaping the pressure to become a cog in the wheel of mindless, soulless, consumption. We, the young ones, not all, but enough, knew about the corruption in the world.

We suffered, because we have no culture that holds us. Most of us are wanderers who had to abandon our own families, because they do not understand what drives us.

I have suffered a lot in my life. From neglect, humiliation, and exile.

In the culture I live in, which is mostly middle class America, and mostly white, I can't even say these things. There is nowhere I can go to even speak to the depths of my isolation and oppression culturally; not as a man from the middle east or germany, but as a man who doesn't want to participate in the insanity, and instead wants to create a different example.

Forgive me if I am vague, because what I have to say is big and has been bottled up for long.

I have never been popular or important, and because of the way my heart lead me, I don't hold any credentials in the institutionalized world. I'm not sanctioned by any religion, I was not chosen by my community as a wisdom keeper, or spiritual adept, I don't have academic credentials, I don't run multi-million dollar companies, I'm no superathlete, and whatever else that could cause my voice to have importance.

But I have important things to say, and important contributions to make. I am skilled in the art of communication, and social transformation.

And I represent a minority of young people who know that they came to earth to serve in the spirit of this great transition the earth and its people are undergoing.

So, I arrived at a point where I knew that I had to do something, regardless of what resources I had, which are very little. And much I have done, though I don't have much documentation to prove it.

And, I am a human being first and foremost. A human being with victories and losses. With wisdom and monumental mistakes.

But one thing I know, is that my whole life's purpose points to one thing, which is the development of deep social networks, where people can be themselves, in their diversity, and still get along.

I need help now. A lot of help. In a lot of ways. So, I'm going to keep telling my story as best I can, and hope that someone reads, and follows what's happening. Perhaps there is something in my story than can inspire others to really tell their stories.

It's the sharing of our stories, I believe, that will take us much much deeper than we've ever been before.
Comment by White-Bear on August 5, 2010 at 9:43am
I guess we are all in the "dog days" of summer. Enjoy!!!
Comment by White-Bear on July 31, 2010 at 8:04am
Good morning gentlemen, is anything going on your worlds?
Comment by Taninrat on July 29, 2010 at 1:42am
Thank you for your invitation.
Comment by White-Bear on July 13, 2010 at 10:02am
With all that is going on in the world, we must remember......We are only borrowing our Mother Earth from our great grandchildren (seven generations) and it is our responsibility to return her in better condition than we received her. I have lived my whole life with this thought in my heart. I have always tried to impart this thought on others........I am a farmer, it is my job to plant the seeds, whether they sprout or not is not my responsibility, I am responsibile to throw the seed.

I have spoken, my stomach is empty.
Comment by Les Johnson on July 11, 2010 at 2:22pm
I need to hear and read the words in here every day! I just attended a great 3 day healing experience here in Alkali Lake this weekend. We leave something there and we take something out to the world for others.
Comment by Billy Howell-Sinnard on July 11, 2010 at 12:47pm
I would like to hear other's understanding of prophecy. I know the Hopi say some of these things may or may not happen. They can be changed. So I'm thinking it's important to consider prophecies, but the best thing we could do is heal ourselves and live the way the Creator intended. Then we become the Ones we've been waiting for. To me, throughout history if humankind had followed and adhered to the Ways of the Great Teachers, the world would be a different place. Now is the time. There is a great awakening happening. The more we change ourselves we become a light to those still in the half-light. So let us begin to live in the Way the Creator intended. There are many inspired teachings out there to guide us, and our own hearts.

A seeker and follower of the Light,
Billy
Comment by Phil Lane Jr. on July 8, 2010 at 9:05pm
Dear Brother White Bear,
Thank you for your encouragement! There is so much we have to share with each other and our younger generations. I would greatly appreciate if each of us could begin by sharing with one another one or more spiritual or cultural that guide our lives. I'll begin, "Be careful what you pray for, the Creator will always answer your prayers. Sometimes the answer will come in ways we don’t expect, but the Creator will never gives us a test we can’t pass, as long as we keep praying and remain faithful."
Warm Love and Greetings,
Brother Phil
 

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