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What Do you think about the decision of Thai Priminister to stop the lottery on-line project?

As I do agree with him. Lottery is one kinds of gamble and from the research, it found Thai youths have addicted to the illegal lottery around 500,000 and it has tendency to be increased. Consequently, the number of crimes are increased as well...

I don't my personal opinion, I believe our incomes not come from luck and gamble but you need to work and gain it from your own sweat and effort...
What others think? wanna share your opinion with me?

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Hi Kade,
I will briefly offer some thoughts from my experience and research...
Gambling is a double edged sword. It certainly is an economic engine, but there are negatives associated with it. I am most familiar with Tribal Gaming as I have previously been involved in developing training for casino staff and also gambling addiction programs for problem gambling. In the states, a widespread belief exists that online gaming cannot be controlled and it is banned as a result (I believe that even though many believe gaming or anything else cannot be controlled online, the government could shut down the Internet if they so desired). Also, for ANY type of gaming, only those 18 and older can participate.

On one hand, lawmakers have a task of passing and enforcing laws that have safeguards in place to restrict who can and cannot participate. As far as crimes are concerned, there is alot of research that shows how crime increases where gaming is involved. Having worked in casinos, I know this is true. A strong partnership between tribe(s), law enforcement, and community addresses the problem with education and training for those who have to deal with it directly. Understanding the dynamics, who is involved and affected, and what the current rules/laws are is critical. Also, since you're talking about youth, the community IS involved regardless of what they are or are not doing to address it. You touched on the importance of sweat and worth and those are important values to teach youth. By involving community and role models/leaders to spend time with youth and youth programs, those values can be shared as time is spent with youth. Keeping youth involved in the community and with mentors will keep them from having extra time to waste online. I can go on and on about different safeguards and activities and it would occupy pages and pages, lol. Getting youth involved and giving them a sense of worth and ownership in the community will help them choose a different path.

Problem gambling was recognized a few years ago and was initially ignored here in Washington State; however, the tribes recognized that this was a problem that was not going to disappear and they lead the way by developing "problem gambling" programs to educate/inform and also provide resources to help those struggling with the problem. The gaming tribes in Washington State contributed to the creation of a fund for developing additional services and they asked the state to manage the fund. I believe this was the catalyst that forced the state to acknowledge this is a serious issue and they worked with tribes to develop resources to help those in need.

I could go on and on about the negatives and there are many more, including the role of leaders and importance of ethics; however, again, that will take pages and pages to write and it's a depressing subject.

The part I like to talk about is the benefits. The concept for tribal gaming came to life around the time of what I call the 1st IRA (Indian Reorganization Act), around 1830. At that time, tribal removal was the order of the day and Andy Jackson was power hungry and despised tribes. He was considering how to diminish or even abolish the Supreme Court. Fortunately, the Court was able to hold on and re-establish their role in the idea of checks and balances in the power structure of American Government. Regarding tribes, a decision was made that impacted gambling in the here and now. The decision focused on state lotteries and casinos. The high court decreed if states implemented any type of gaming, then tribes could also pursue those activities. Furthermore, the Court decision pointed out there was no difference between lotteries and casinos. I think, at that time, those in power did not foresee tribes ever having the ability or knowledge to develop gaming facilities. It's amusing how our oppressors developed mechanisms that would come back to bite them in backside in the future...

From that time to the present, much happened and some of it is reflected on this site through intergenerational trauma. I won't rehash it. Historically, tribes have not had the kinds of services that their oppressors have taken for granted: education, healthcare, elders support, aid to victims, youth services, (a very long list based on location and need) etc., etc., etc.. Through gaming, tribes have developed or expanded these services. Some tribes have realized that they can take a leadership role in their region and they have already started impacting the history of region(s) where they live. Still yet, other tribes have diversified and created more economic opportunities for the tribe and tribal members and surrounding community.

I could add much more to this. I am just remembering information from the top of my head. I actually wrote papers about this when I was in college and I had hands on experience with tribes when they were developing alternatives to identified problems. It's come a long way since then.

From what you have written, you identified a problem. There's a process to look closer at the problem and identify alternatives for dealing with it. I'll be happy to share some of the research and resources I'm aware of so you can maybe look at models to help. Anyhow, good luck with it. I know it's a difficult issue.
Hi Tim,

Your reply are great, as if I have pressed the right button from you and the words flowing spontaneously. I have to confess I do agree with every point you made. Because I see the danger of gambles and people who play with them. In Thailand there are many people become bankrupt and need to be robbers, thief or anything that's really bad because they are addicted with the gambling and wasted of their times and money to melt in the casino and gambling cycle, particularly the gambling on the football matches and soccer games. Fews of bankers cheated the customers' money on-line, use their expertises in the wrong way, the time that the bank know when the guys can earn at least 100 million Baht already.

And when they were arrested, same reason that they mentioned, they are in debts with the gambling brokers and they need to gain more incomes to pay for their debts otherwise they will be killed as they have no money to pay them.

Some of them, worse than that, kidnapped the child from their employers and threatening for the money, when they could not get the money they killed the child.

Many serious problems occur in this society cause by the gambles.

Hope you are doing fine and survive from the gamble dear.

Kade.

Tim Collins said:
Hi Kade,
I will briefly offer some thoughts from my experience and research...
Gambling is a double edged sword. It certainly is an economic engine, but there are negatives associated with it. I am most familiar with Tribal Gaming as I have previously been involved in developing training for casino staff and also gambling addiction programs for problem gambling. In the states, a widespread belief exists that online gaming cannot be controlled and it is banned as a result (I believe that even though many believe gaming or anything else cannot be controlled online, the government could shut down the Internet if they so desired). Also, for ANY type of gaming, only those 18 and older can participate.

On one hand, lawmakers have a task of passing and enforcing laws that have safeguards in place to restrict who can and cannot participate. As far as crimes are concerned, there is alot of research that shows how crime increases where gaming is involved. Having worked in casinos, I know this is true. A strong partnership between tribe(s), law enforcement, and community addresses the problem with education and training for those who have to deal with it directly. Understanding the dynamics, who is involved and affected, and what the current rules/laws are is critical. Also, since you're talking about youth, the community IS involved regardless of what they are or are not doing to address it. You touched on the importance of sweat and worth and those are important values to teach youth. By involving community and role models/leaders to spend time with youth and youth programs, those values can be shared as time is spent with youth. Keeping youth involved in the community and with mentors will keep them from having extra time to waste online. I can go on and on about different safeguards and activities and it would occupy pages and pages, lol. Getting youth involved and giving them a sense of worth and ownership in the community will help them choose a different path.

Problem gambling was recognized a few years ago and was initially ignored here in Washington State; however, the tribes recognized that this was a problem that was not going to disappear and they lead the way by developing "problem gambling" programs to educate/inform and also provide resources to help those struggling with the problem. The gaming tribes in Washington State contributed to the creation of a fund for developing additional services and they asked the state to manage the fund. I believe this was the catalyst that forced the state to acknowledge this is a serious issue and they worked with tribes to develop resources to help those in need.

I could go on and on about the negatives and there are many more, including the role of leaders and importance of ethics; however, again, that will take pages and pages to write and it's a depressing subject.

The part I like to talk about is the benefits. The concept for tribal gaming came to life around the time of what I call the 1st IRA (Indian Reorganization Act), around 1830. At that time, tribal removal was the order of the day and Andy Jackson was power hungry and despised tribes. He was considering how to diminish or even abolish the Supreme Court. Fortunately, the Court was able to hold on and re-establish their role in the idea of checks and balances in the power structure of American Government. Regarding tribes, a decision was made that impacted gambling in the here and now. The decision focused on state lotteries and casinos. The high court decreed if states implemented any type of gaming, then tribes could also pursue those activities. Furthermore, the Court decision pointed out there was no difference between lotteries and casinos. I think, at that time, those in power did not foresee tribes ever having the ability or knowledge to develop gaming facilities. It's amusing how our oppressors developed mechanisms that would come back to bite them in backside in the future...

From that time to the present, much happened and some of it is reflected on this site through intergenerational trauma. I won't rehash it. Historically, tribes have not had the kinds of services that their oppressors have taken for granted: education, healthcare, elders support, aid to victims, youth services, (a very long list based on location and need) etc., etc., etc.. Through gaming, tribes have developed or expanded these services. Some tribes have realized that they can take a leadership role in their region and they have already started impacting the history of region(s) where they live. Still yet, other tribes have diversified and created more economic opportunities for the tribe and tribal members and surrounding community.

I could add much more to this. I am just remembering information from the top of my head. I actually wrote papers about this when I was in college and I had hands on experience with tribes when they were developing alternatives to identified problems. It's come a long way since then.

From what you have written, you identified a problem. There's a process to look closer at the problem and identify alternatives for dealing with it. I'll be happy to share some of the research and resources I'm aware of so you can maybe look at models to help. Anyhow, good luck with it. I know it's a difficult issue.

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